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Post by inspire78 on Aug 13, 2008 4:40:09 GMT 8
Took on my first lesson, has not been feeling well so till now den post. I rmb i took some shots till the class has moved on and i was still there shooting till Jeff came back for me....hahahaha..... #1. 1/160s, F8, ISO 100 #2. 1/250s, F7.1, ISO 100 #3. dunno y but the more i see this pic i love it more..... 1/100, F7.1, ISO 100 C&C welcome....thks thks.....
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Post by Cecil Chan on Aug 13, 2008 9:40:54 GMT 8
If you're referring to the third picture - I know why. Becoz you didn't cut of anything like you did on the 1st and 2nd picture and also becoz you didn't burn the feathers of the swans like you did on the 2nd picture . ;D
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Post by inspire78 on Aug 13, 2008 13:25:28 GMT 8
okok the #1 n #2 coz the swan not in full so its considered cut.....while #3 is full so it looks better.....hehehehe....
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Post by marcus on Aug 13, 2008 19:19:38 GMT 8
Never take the back profile of birds (backside)... for that is my trademark. hee hee hee Nah.. Just joking...
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Post by marcus on Aug 13, 2008 22:00:58 GMT 8
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Post by Deswitch on Aug 13, 2008 23:47:01 GMT 8
You are at the wrong side of the swan. Taking photos against the light will give you shadows. I tell my son, if you cant see your shadow, dont press the shutter. Meaning the sun should be ideally behind you. If you must take the photo, you got to fill in some light with your flash. Not sure if Cecil have come to this part yet.
If you need to crop, make sure you don do it like #1 and #2. be patience and wait for the swan to isolate. If want to crop den crop it in like just the head but if you can go to a lower level, you will not see the backside of the swan.
For all living things, focus on the eye. if eye is not sharp, photo can be trashed.
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Post by lowlights on Aug 14, 2008 0:23:15 GMT 8
You are at the wrong side of the swan. Taking photos against the light will give you shadows. I tell my son, if you cant see your shadow, dont press the shutter. Meaning the sun should be ideally behind you. If you must take the photo, you got to fill in some light with your flash. Not sure if Cecil have come to this part yet. If you need to crop, make sure you don do it like #1 and #2. be patience and wait for the swan to isolate. If want to crop den crop it in like just the head but if you can go to a lower level, you will not see the backside of the swan. For all living things, focus on the eye. if eye is not sharp, photo can be trashed. Wow..the Master has spoken..superb advise.. Particularly this one " if you cant see your shadow, dont press the shutter" Statement like this is from a true experience shooter.. clap clap
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Post by inspire78 on Aug 14, 2008 1:26:24 GMT 8
WOW!!! The details are there and its great!!!! nice nice....btw u used a zoom lens?
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Post by inspire78 on Aug 14, 2008 1:29:56 GMT 8
You are at the wrong side of the swan. Taking photos against the light will give you shadows. I tell my son, if you cant see your shadow, dont press the shutter. Meaning the sun should be ideally behind you. If you must take the photo, you got to fill in some light with your flash. Not sure if Cecil have come to this part yet. If you need to crop, make sure you don do it like #1 and #2. be patience and wait for the swan to isolate. If want to crop den crop it in like just the head but if you can go to a lower level, you will not see the backside of the swan. For all living things, focus on the eye. if eye is not sharp, photo can be trashed. can have more details? like say for #1, #2 , #3 which angle will u take? sorry sorry , my theory very bad....
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Post by marcus on Aug 14, 2008 22:05:21 GMT 8
WOW!!! The details are there and its great!!!! nice nice....btw u used a zoom lens? Ya.. shot that with a 400mm lens.... ;D
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Post by inspire78 on Aug 15, 2008 11:53:40 GMT 8
wow.....
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Post by Deswitch on Aug 15, 2008 23:11:00 GMT 8
You are at the wrong side of the swan. Taking photos against the light will give you shadows. I tell my son, if you cant see your shadow, dont press the shutter. Meaning the sun should be ideally behind you. If you must take the photo, you got to fill in some light with your flash. Not sure if Cecil have come to this part yet. If you need to crop, make sure you don do it like #1 and #2. be patience and wait for the swan to isolate. If want to crop den crop it in like just the head but if you can go to a lower level, you will not see the backside of the swan. For all living things, focus on the eye. if eye is not sharp, photo can be trashed. can have more details? like say for #1, #2 , #3 which angle will u take? sorry sorry , my theory very bad.... All your 3 shots are taken from the same direction. the sun if I'm not wrong is on your right, about 2 oclock direction. so you see all the swan;s face is in the shadow area. If you expose for that area, the swan's head will be burnt. Only remedy for this situation is to us fill in flash as I presume you cant walk on water. (Ideal angle to shoot will be low and at 2 oclock from where you were shooting). I thought the "no see shadow dont shoot" is the simplest form of direction. I cant think of anything simpler leh... ;D. Any sifu out there can help to think of a simpler term? Richard, chief can? ;D
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Post by marcus on Aug 15, 2008 23:29:36 GMT 8
ya... sun behind you shoot.... hee hee
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Post by inspire78 on Aug 16, 2008 0:12:15 GMT 8
tot of using the flash but scare the swans will swim away due to the sudden brightness coz doenst have chief type of DIY diffuser.....hahaha.....no shadow no shoot??? blur on this.....sorry me really slow when comes to this......
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Post by kimurapapaya07 on Aug 16, 2008 0:18:49 GMT 8
tot of using the flash but scare the swans will swim away due to the sudden brightness coz doenst have chief type of DIY diffuser.....hahaha.....no shadow no shoot??? blur on this.....sorry me really slow when comes to this...... deswitch bring out some good point. share with u mine version, this shot is done in london. pointer is welcome.
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Post by inspire78 on Aug 16, 2008 17:57:22 GMT 8
is it dark dark one?
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Post by Deswitch on Aug 17, 2008 7:13:25 GMT 8
tot of using the flash but scare the swans will swim away due to the sudden brightness coz doenst have chief type of DIY diffuser.....hahaha.....no shadow no shoot??? blur on this.....sorry me really slow when comes to this...... You can reduce your flash output. Normally I reduce all the way to -3ev. Swan wont be scared by such low powered flash. you just need a little light to light up the shadow areas.
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Post by inspire78 on Aug 18, 2008 2:19:47 GMT 8
thks Deswitch for the advise....i need that.....thks thks......btw can anyone advise me on the "no shadow no shoot"? is the sun behind the swan or infront of the swan.....taught on 1st lesson on lightings but i too slow to digest it.....sorry sorry....
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Post by Deswitch on Aug 18, 2008 2:37:22 GMT 8
thks Deswitch for the advise....i need that.....thks thks......btw can anyone advise me on the "no shadow no shoot"? is the sun behind the swan or infront of the swan.....taught on 1st lesson on lightings but i too slow to digest it.....sorry sorry.... OK OK .. sorry if I confuse you. You cant find this advise anywhere else. I use that to teach my son cos he cannot understand lighting yet. What I meant was sun have to be behind you. light from the sun with hit the subject and bounce back into yr lens into yr sensor. Thats how a photo is created. Light source should ideally be behind you. side lighting are acceptable in some cases but back lighting will gives you shadows unless you fill in some light.
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Post by inspire78 on Aug 18, 2008 3:01:54 GMT 8
okok got it ....hehehehe....thks thks......3 more things learnt from u today....yes!
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