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Post by Cecil Chan on Jul 13, 2010 14:52:21 GMT 8
Raffles Place Anti Drug campaign #1 #2 #3 Double starbursts #4 Fullerton Hotel #5 #6
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Post by marcus on Jul 13, 2010 15:04:23 GMT 8
Chief another new toy? he he he
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Post by Cecil Chan on Jul 13, 2010 18:47:44 GMT 8
No Marcus 16-35 one lens shoot and I'm getting to believe its the camera in front of the person.
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Post by nmss2 on Jul 13, 2010 22:02:32 GMT 8
like 1,2 &4.
do you need to PP for no. 5? or straight from cam?
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Post by Cecil Chan on Jul 14, 2010 0:02:19 GMT 8
All must pp lah not straight, I can show straight from cam later.
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Post by lowlights on Jul 14, 2010 13:44:29 GMT 8
This one nice .. can't say I like the Sun "star burst" though No Marcus 16-35 one lens shoot and I'm getting to believe its the camera in front of the person. Why do you feel that way May I ask ?
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Post by Cecil Chan on Jul 14, 2010 20:49:47 GMT 8
I believe maybe rightly maybe wrongly, that a good photo requires 4 things, the knowledge, the moment, the artistry, and finally that if you have all these 3 then the equipment plays a part and contribute towards a better picture. For example a better lens giving a sharper image, etc. My picture has improved imho isince I got the 1D Mk4 and the various L lenses and I mainly attribute it to this change in equipment from E3 to 1D Mk4. So, the equipment in front of the person obviously play a part but perhaps not as vital as the other 3. I always seem to state the obvious, but sometimes the obvious is not so obvious, there are those who say "Its always the person behind the camera" no matter what and will flatly refuse to accept that the equipment does not play a part in the quality of the picture, not even 1 itsy bitsy teeny weeny bit. ;D
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Post by justshot on Jul 14, 2010 21:57:49 GMT 8
No. 5 could be a killer shot without the tree….
BTW, having the right equipment for the right purpose is definitely essential. Just as the saying, use the right tool for the right purpose.
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Post by marcus on Jul 14, 2010 22:15:47 GMT 8
hm... i have a different view.... I believe its the audience. I believe maybe rightly maybe wrongly, that a good photo requires 4 things, the knowledge, the moment, the artistry, and finally that if you have all these 3 then the equipment plays a part and contribute towards a better picture. For example a better lens giving a sharper image, etc. My picture has improved imho isince I got the 1D Mk4 and the various L lenses and I mainly attribute it to this change in equipment from E3 to 1D Mk4. So, the equipment in front of the person obviously play a part but perhaps not as vital as the other 3. I always seem to state the obvious, but sometimes the obvious is not so obvious, there are those who say "Its always the person behind the camera" no matter what and will flatly refuse to accept that the equipment does not play a part in the quality of the picture, not even 1 itsy bitsy teeny weeny bit. ;D
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Post by lowlights on Jul 14, 2010 23:01:33 GMT 8
Seems that the more people shot the more confuse all gets .. first it's the man behind .. now its the camera in front Let me ask a general question .. and no pun intended .. Give the Mk4 to a newbie and what do you get ? Or for that matter .. to someone who has shot for a year or so but does not care to improve .. what do you get ? Give a P&S to a season shooter (season as in someone that has pride over what he shots) .. what do you get ? Yes.. give the circumstances .. 1) knowledge is key .. to know which equipment to use and when and how to get the max out of it 2) the all encompassing COMPOSITION this is all it about .. PERIOD I have talk to much about COMPOSITION that I am sounding like a broken down record player .. so I will not say more Oh .. dun get me start on the so call "the moment" .. So the equipment or the man Cheers
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Post by lowlights on Jul 14, 2010 23:03:34 GMT 8
Marcus .. what audience if picture CMI But point noted .. you need to have a audience to comment on the photos
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Post by marcus on Jul 14, 2010 23:08:27 GMT 8
Marcus .. what audience if picture CMI But point noted .. you need to have a audience to comment on the photos Wah... you may nv know.. CMI picture are selected by audience. Its like a normal person living with 10 crazy fella (mental problem), 10 crazy fella say that normal person siao. So who will win, of cos is the 10 crazy fella.. lol So one day someone commented saying picture not nice you will know wat category they fall in. ;D
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Post by Cecil Chan on Jul 14, 2010 23:56:39 GMT 8
Justshot, I thought its the tree that maketh the picture. Lowlight how about the man then the equipment. Ser me c CMI? Marcus, explain audience.
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Post by justshot on Jul 15, 2010 3:27:47 GMT 8
Justshot, I thought its the tree that maketh the picture. Lowlight how about the man then the equipment. Ser me c CMI? Marcus, explain audience. In normal circumstances, yes. But in this case, instead of creating a frame, it kind of blocks the picture. And looking at the blue sky, with the wide angle, I would prefer to focus on the building with the dramatic blue sky and white clouds.
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Post by lowlights on Jul 15, 2010 9:19:21 GMT 8
Marcus .. what audience if picture CMI But point noted .. you need to have a audience to comment on the photos Wah... you may nv know.. CMI picture are selected by audience. Its like a normal person living with 10 crazy fella (mental problem), 10 crazy fella say that normal person siao. So who will win, of cos is the 10 crazy fella.. lol So one day someone commented saying picture not nice you will know wat category they fall in. ;D This is a tough one .. what is REALITY 10 lunatics telling 1 man he is sane 1 man telling 10 that their are lunatics 10 men thinking they are lunatics 1 man thinking that 10 men is sane 10 men thinking 1 man is sane the permutation goes on .. you figure it out
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Post by lowlights on Jul 15, 2010 9:24:22 GMT 8
Justshot, I thought its the tree that maketh the picture. Lowlight how about the man then the equipment. Ser me c CMI?Marcus, explain audience. What talk you ?The answer has been clear all these while .. it has always been the MAN .. This World will not be in such a nuts condition if is not for us Man .. Same for photography .. if you are not ready or dun give a hoot about the shot .. the photos are CMI .. But then the questions now begs .. what is beauty ? Beauty lays in the eye of the beholder So what is CMI ? So the camera infront ? Or the Man behind ? Cheers ;D
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Post by lowlights on Jul 15, 2010 9:25:08 GMT 8
Justshot, I thought its the tree that maketh the picture. Lowlight how about the man then the equipment. Ser me c CMI? Marcus, explain audience. In normal circumstances, yes. But in this case, instead of creating a frame, it kind of blocks the picture. And looking at the blue sky, with the wide angle, I would prefer to focus on the building with the dramatic blue sky and white clouds. Sorry Jon.. my take is the tree completes the shot I did not like it as it was a technical shot ... and it technically imperfect .. building are slanting inwards
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Post by nmss2 on Jul 15, 2010 13:23:35 GMT 8
Whoa you guys talk so much philosophies that is confusing me! ok ok my turn! ;D a good composed picture is not bad but a well-composed picture is not good enough!
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Post by justshot on Jul 15, 2010 22:07:22 GMT 8
In normal circumstances, yes. But in this case, instead of creating a frame, it kind of blocks the picture. And looking at the blue sky, with the wide angle, I would prefer to focus on the building with the dramatic blue sky and white clouds. Sorry Jon.. my take is the tree completes the shot I did not like it as it was a technical shot ... and it technically imperfect .. building are slanting inwards No apologies needed, bro. Everyone is entitled to his/her preference. However, in this case, would you agree that once the technicality are corrected, it will be a perfect shot?
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Post by lowlights on Jul 16, 2010 9:04:22 GMT 8
Whoa you guys talk so much philosophies that is confusing me! ok ok my turn! ;D a good composed picture is not bad but a well-composed picture is not good enough! Fully agreed .. the meaning of Composition is wider than many people think What is the differences between a good composed picture and a well composed picture ? Cheers
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Post by lowlights on Jul 16, 2010 9:10:27 GMT 8
Sorry Jon.. my take is the tree completes the shot I did not like it as it was a technical shot ... and it technically imperfect .. building are slanting inwards No apologies needed, bro. Everyone is entitled to his/her preference. However, in this case, would you agree that once the technicality are corrected, it will be a perfect shot? Far from it (sorry Chief) .. some ingredient of the necessary Composition is still missing as nmss2 said "a well-composed picture is not good enough" .. If you must know the photo is not balanced .. heavy of the left side .. because of the bridge .. instead of help with the scene it is adding weight .. the tree was in a way trying to "balance" it but sadly not enough Just my take Cheers
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Post by nmss2 on Jul 16, 2010 11:12:42 GMT 8
Fully agreed .. the meaning of Composition is wider than many people think What is the differences between a good composed picture and a well composed picture ? Cheers Good composed picture means there are some elements of composition which makes the picture ticks. Well composed picture means it is almost perfect with no elements of flaws (perfectly composed and balanced) but yet ..... it is still not good enough. * i am not relating to any of the pictures here, just citing most pictures that we are seeing in most forums/galleries in general.
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