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Post by allietan on Sept 21, 2008 23:43:01 GMT 8
2nd chance at Punggol lalang fields and sunset. C&C please Lalang - think I should have done this in portrait form  Lone tree - with sepia tone post-added  Sunset  |
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Post by lowlights on Sept 22, 2008 0:39:42 GMT 8
Nice color for the Lalang
Abit pale in color for the Sunset
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Post by Cecil Chan on Sept 22, 2008 10:31:00 GMT 8
Great job, like the way the light shines onto the lalang.
The conversion to sepia on the lone tree gives it the mood but overall its a bit flat - you can try to improve it with midtone contrast.
#3 Horizon slanted, sun overexposed, rocks too dark, lacks details.
If you use an NDG filter of around 4 stops, you can then increase the exposure for the rocks and at the same time prevent the sun from flaring.
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Post by allietan on Sept 23, 2008 8:25:34 GMT 8
Thanks Lowlights for your comments. A bit pale for the Sunset meaning the sky's dull?
Thanks Chief, err...kinda stupid question, but is a NDG filter the same as a polariser? If not, will using a polariser do the same to increase exposure for the rocks and not blow the sun?
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Post by Cecil Chan on Sept 23, 2008 15:30:30 GMT 8
A CP will darken by everything and does of course reduce flare and can be used but a Neutral Density Graduated filter has half filter and half non filter so that the sky can be darken by 0.3 (1 stop) 0.6 (2 stops) and 0.9 (3 stops) without darkening the land.
So, essentially its not the same thing.
You can buy a Cokin P or Z filter and a 0.6 NDG filter for a start up, not too ex I think.
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Post by lowlights on Sept 23, 2008 18:32:57 GMT 8
Thanks Lowlights for your comments. A bit pale for the Sunset meaning the sky's dull? Thanks Chief, err...kinda stupid question, but is a NDG filter the same as a polariser? If not, will using a polariser do the same to increase exposure for the rocks and not blow the sun? What I meant was the dynamic range or the color is not "strong" or punchy.. maybe that day was like that ..at least it looks that way on my screen A polariser is use to cut down reflection from reflective subject at a angle..mostly 45 deg..for example the reflection of lights on a window glass panel A Netural Density filter is to reduce lights reaching the sensor. This is commonly use when the light is too bright and you need to have longer exposure. Many people also use it for landscape shots, because it also enhances the contrast. What Chief is suggesting is to use a Half ND.. what this is (assuming that you dun already know) is a filter which have half clear and half darken. This allows you to stop down the sun/bright lights/flare on one half of the scene. Take for example your Sunset shot.. If you use say a ND8 on the sky..then this allows you to have a long shutter timing to make the water silky.. Hope this make senses |
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Post by marcus on Sept 23, 2008 20:52:00 GMT 8
Lalang color too warm, with the warm color cast loss of freshness. Look dry... no soul...
If your photo is not taken between 6 to 7 sunset.... guess you might have the wrong white balance.
If your photo was taken between 6 to 7.... guess you might have the wrong white balance too, because its way too warm.....
And somehow ur warm has no contrast guess you are using canon........ (ahem just wild guess hee hee)
But over all wrong white balance....... anyway please correct me if i am wrong. =D
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Post by allblue on Sept 23, 2008 22:24:04 GMT 8
the lalang shot was set at AWB so it's automatic. can't be too wrong under day time, isn't it?
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Post by marcus on Sept 23, 2008 22:47:05 GMT 8
the lalang shot was set at AWB so it's automatic. can't be too wrong under day time, isn't it? AWB in day light may give a warmer tone for both nikon and canon camera other brand I not sure. Why I know... in the past i have been shooting in a nearby park shooting at 1st light.. few at last light. Sunrise and sunset casting should be golden.. the sensor awb give is somehow warm... the lalang picture may look "golden" but its warm to me... |
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Post by allietan on Sept 23, 2008 23:11:00 GMT 8
Hi, thanks guys for all your advice. Oh dear, now I have to start learning about all the different filters out there. So a NDG filter is kinda like a bifocal but with sunglass on the top huh?  So there are different degrees of darkness on the filter as well? Guessing 0.6 NDG would mean degree of darkness. Hi Marcus, you're right, I am using a Canon. I say, can tell which camera take what kind of picture one, I'm so very impressed  The pic was taken between 5 and 6pm and the sun was pretty harsh that day too. I normally leave the white balance on AWB, so far it seems to be quite accurate at least 95% of the time (to my still newbie eye that is) |
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Post by allblue on Sept 23, 2008 23:13:57 GMT 8
warm n cosy. good with me:) actually my comment on the 'lalang' would be, i prefer to have it shot on 1 stalk on the subject without the other 2 around. it's quite distracting. the 2nd shot is flat. perhaps the sun was hidden by the clouds that there's no contrast(shadows). the 3rd one, i'd agree with cecil but i've not tried ND before. maybe i may consider this for my future landscapes.
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Post by allietan on Sept 23, 2008 23:15:01 GMT 8
So there are different degrees of darkness on the filter as well? Guessing 0.6 NDG would mean degree of darkness. err, didn't read Chief's explanation clearly at first, 0.6 shows the different darkness, answered my own question  |
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So there are different degrees of darkness on the filter as well? Guessing 0.6 NDG would mean degree of darkness.
